Craps 6 And 8 Strategy
The 7, as you know, will roll six times every 36 rolls. The 6 and 8 will roll five times each, for a total of ten times in 36 sample rolls. This means that you have an almost 2:1 chance (10:6) of winning Larry Edell has been the editor of 'The Crapshooter Newsletter' since 1994. Craps: 6 and 8 Place Bet Strategies It’s no surprise that multitudes of strategies have been developed around place betting the (6) & (8) as these numbers give the craps player one of the be best advantages of beating the casinos. First of all, both the (6) and the (8) are the numbers likely to roll most often, next to the (7).
What is the 'Best' Progression for You? (Part Three of Three)
This is the third of three installments looking at betting progression strategies. To get the most of this article make sure you have read Part 1 and Part 2 in our series on progression betting.
So far we have looked at three different strategies designed to put more money on the table – and therefore win more money at the table. We looked at the very simple, yet very powerful up-a-unit progression. This progression adds one unit to the bet each time the number hits. We also looked at the press-and-pull (and the pull-and-press variant). The press-and-pull progression alternates between pressing the place bet when the number hits and pulling the profits when it hits, whereas the pull-and-press pulls one hit of profit first and then alternates between pressing and pulling.
All of these progressions minimize risk but also provide a powerful method to maximize your profits in an easy to manage way. There are times when you may want to be more aggressive. Such a situation could be when a thrower has surpassed twenty throws without a seven-out. By now you have a tidy sum in profits locked up in your chip rail. You are betting the casinos money. It is time to go for the gold.
What do you do? The press-and-pull progression is powerful, but another progression is even more powerful, though a little more difficult to manage. By increasing your bet by one half the current bet, you average more money on the table – and more profits when the numbers hit. The math required to calculate the increase can cause you to lose focus while shooting, so I do not recommend this if you are shooting. Use it on another careful shooter, or when you already have a large profit from the current shooter.
The tables that follow compare several progressions for a $10 player.
- Up-a-minimum-unit increases the bet by $6 each time the number hits.
- Up-a-betting-unit increases the bet by the starting bet size ($12) each time the number hits.
- Press-and-pull alternates pressing the bet with pulling the profits.
- Press-1/2-the-bet increases the bet by one-half the current bet each time the number hits.
Six and Eight | |||||||||||||
Unit Size | 10 | Up a min. unit | Up a betting unit | Press and Pull | Press 1/2 the Bet | ||||||||
Hit # | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Total | |
0 | 12 | -12 | 12 | -12 | 12 | -12 | 12 | -12 | |||||
1 | 18 | 8 | -4 | 24 | 2 | -10 | 24 | 4 | -8 | 18 | 8 | -4 | |
2 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 36 | 16 | 6 | 24 | 28 | 20 | 30 | 9 | 5 | |
3 | 30 | 22 | 33 | 48 | 30 | 36 | 48 | 8 | 28 | 48 | 17 | 22 | |
4 | 36 | 29 | 62 | 60 | 44 | 80 | 48 | 56 | 84 | 72 | 32 | 54 | |
5 | 42 | 36 | 98 | 72 | 58 | 138 | 96 | 16 | 100 | 108 | 48 | 102 | |
6 | 48 | 43 | 141 | 84 | 72 | 210 | 96 | 112 | 212 | 162 | 72 | 174 | |
7 | 54 | 50 | 191 | 96 | 86 | 296 | 192 | 32 | 244 | 246 | 105 | 279 | |
8 | 60 | 57 | 248 | 108 | 100 | 396 | 192 | 224 | 468 | 372 | 161 | 440 | |
9 | 66 | 64 | 312 | 120 | 114 | 510 | 384 | 64 | 532 | 558 | 248 | 688 | |
10 | 72 | 71 | 383 | 132 | 128 | 638 | 384 | 448 | 980 | 840 | 369 | 1057 | |
11 | 78 | 78 | 461 | 144 | 142 | 780 | 768 | 128 | 1108 | 1260 | 560 | 1617 | |
12 | 84 | 85 | 546 | 156 | 156 | 936 | 768 | 896 | 2004 | 1890 | 840 | 2457 |
As you can see from the charts, pressing half your bet will win you the most money if you hit a number more than eight times. The more times beyond this that you hit a number the more quickly this method pays off compared to the others. But, also notice that at seven or fewer hits, the up-a-betting-unit out performs it. That is one reason why you may want to save the press-a-half-bet strategy until you are well into a roll and have hit numbers many times. That is where the power of this strategy pays off.
I would like to look at one final progression – actually a progression-regression. The 6/8 Progression-regression has been around for a long time. People who become proficient at the 3V set – the set that has 6’s and 8’s all the way around – will tend to hit more 6’s and 8’s than normal. To capitalize on this ability, the 6/8 progression-regression strategy was developed.
In that betting scheme, the 6 and 8 are both placed for the player’s betting unit. After one hit of either the 6 or 8, both the 6 and 8 are increased to 1.5 times the original bet. The next time a 6 or 8 hits, collect the profit. On the third hit of a 6 or 8, both the 6 and 8 are increased to 2.5 times the original bet. The fourth time a 6 or 8 hits, collect the profit. On the fifth hit, the 6 and 8 are increased to 4 times the original bet.
Craps 6 And 8 Hop Strategy
The sixth time the 6 or 8 hits completes the progression. You collect the profits and regress the 6 and 8 back to the original amount. Once you have regressed your bets, you have won a tidy sum. You then start the progression all over again.
A more aggressive version of the 6/8 progression-regression was also developed. You start with the second level of 1.5 times your betting unit and complete the series in five hits rather than six, collecting a bit more in the process.
Here are the tables for comparison:
Six and Eight | ||||||||||||||
Unit Size | 10 | Up a min. unit | 6/8 Progress/Regress (Std) | 6/8 Prog/Regr (Aggressive) | ||||||||||
Hit # | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Give | Coll. | Total | Bet | Win | Give | Coll. | Total | |
0 | 12 | -12 | 12 | 24 | -24 | 18 | 36 | -36 | ||||||
1 | 12 | 8 | -4 | 18 | 14 | 2 | -22 | 30 | 21 | 3 | -39 | |||
2 | 18 | 15 | 11 | 18 | 21 | 21 | -1 | 30 | 35 | 35 | -4 | |||
3 | 24 | 22 | 33 | 30 | 21 | 3 | -4 | 48 | 35 | 1 | -5 | |||
4 | 30 | 29 | 62 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 31 | 48 | 56 | 56 | 51 | |||
5 | 36 | 36 | 98 | 48 | 35 | 1 | 30 | 18 | 56 | 116 | 167 | |||
6 | 42 | 43 | 141 | 12 | 56 | 128 | 158 | 30 | 21 | 3 | 164 | |||
7 | 48 | 50 | 191 | 18 | 14 | 2 | 160 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 199 | |||
8 | 54 | 57 | 248 | 18 | 21 | 21 | 181 | 48 | 35 | 1 | 198 | |||
9 | 60 | 64 | 312 | 30 | 21 | 3 | 178 | 48 | 56 | 56 | 254 | |||
10 | 66 | 71 | 383 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 213 | 18 | 56 | 116 | 370 | |||
11 | 72 | 78 | 461 | 48 | 35 | 1 | 212 | 30 | 21 | 3 | 367 | |||
12 | 78 | 85 | 546 | 12 | 56 | 128 | 340 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 402 |
Notice that with the 6/8 progression-regression you are actually losing money until the fifth hit. However, since a hit on the 6 or 8 counts, you are likely to get more hits than on any one number as in the up-a-unit strategy. With the 6/8 strategy you are investing a lot of your up front wins to finance a big win a little later on. It also requires only six total hits of the 6 and 8 for the big win.
We have reviewed the simple and powerful up-a-unit, the slightly more powerful press-and-pull, the still more powerful press-1/2-bet, and 6/8 progression-regression strategies. The first two strategies are good in virtually all situations. The press-1/2-bet strategy is best used after having already collected on several hits. The 6/8 strategy is designed to give you a rush when you complete it.
You can choose whatever strategy you like when betting your money at the craps tables. I, however, prefer the less exciting but much steadier up-a-unit strategy when risking my hard-earned wagering capital.
Craps 6 8 Press Strategy
Well, that is all for this time. But remember, if you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.
Stickman
Craps 6 And 8 Strategy
What is the 'Best' Progression for You?
You have read the books, you have taken the class and you have practiced your throw religiously for several weeks. You are finally to the point where you feel you can go attack the casino and make a 'withdrawal' at the craps table. When you finally arrive you notice a table that has your position available and it is not very crowded. You move to the table, buy in and the dice are about to be passed to you. You focus on the dice in the center of the table; determine what you need to do to quickly set the dice. The stickman slides the dice in your direction. You quickly set them, focus on your spot and launch them. They travel beautifully together, land softly, touch the back wall and die together. Your point is established and you place the six and eight for $12 each. You continue to roll for who knows how long. You are completely in the zone, hitting number after number. You are oblivious to your surroundings. All you energy and attention is on the dice. Eventually you are pulled from your zone by the inevitable words: 'Seven-out, line away.' You look at your watch – you have been rolling for 35 minutes. You are ecstatic. Everything has worked just the way you dreamed. Then you look at your chip rack and put the haphazardly placed collection of chips in order and count them. You find you are up 15 units. This is great, you think, but with a 35-minute roll it should have been more. Then it dawns on you – you did not press your bets.
This is a very common occurrence among those who are reasonably new to careful shooting. You get into the zone and just don’t think about anything but throwing the dice. What you need to do is find a way to increase your bets and do it in a nearly automatic way. There are many progression methods available, but many of them require some mental gymnastics that tend to throw you out of the zone. Keep in mind that it is always prudent to only increase your bets on profits. If you are betting the six and eight, you will need at least two wins – three is better – before starting any progression. If you are betting the inside numbers you need three to four wins before increasing your bets.
Two of the simplest progressions are the press-and-pull (or the pull-and-press variant) and the up-a-unit. As the name implies, the press-and-pull progression alternates between pressing the place bet when the number hits and pulling the profits when it hits. For example you place a $6 six. The first time it hits you take $6 of the $7 you win and press the six to $12. The next time a six rolls you take the $14 win (pull) and put it in your rack. Next hit on the six you use $12 of you $14 win and press the six to $24, etc. Since the dealer automatically knows the amounts you need in order to press a bet, the only thing you need to remember is whether you want to press or pull. This can be easily tracked by putting the same number of chips as you have place bets flat in the chip rack beside each other. For the press-and-pull progression have the chips pointing toward the table – indicating that you want to have the money go in that direction when the number hits. Once you press a bet, flip the corresponding chip to face you – indicating that you want to money to go in your direction when it hits the next time. Keep alternating as it hits.
The up-a-unit progression adds one unit to the place number each time it hits. Using the same $6 place bet on the six, the first time the six hits, you say 'up a unit, please' and the dealer will put $6 of your $7 win on the six and give you $1. The next time the six hits, the dealer will take $6 from your $14 win and add it to the bet on the six and give you $8. Each time the six hits, the dealer will add $6 to the bet and return the difference to you. This is the simplest progression of which I am aware. The only thing you have to remember is 'up a unit'. It is also noteworthy to mention that until you have hit a number at least 7 times, you will win more money playing up-a-unit than press-and-pull. The only exception is hitting the 5, 6, 8, or 9 exactly two times using the press-and-pull method.
Craps 6 And 8 Strategy
So there you have it - two simple progression strategies. What could be simpler than just saying 'up a unit, please' each time a number hits? Also, this simpler method actually pays better most of the time. Remember two things, however, only raise your bets on winnings and practice is the key to performance and practicing progressions at home will make them a natural part of the routine. Make progressions a part of your winning strategy. For more please read more about progression betting strategies with Parts 2 and Part 3 in this series.
Craps 6 8 Betting Strategy
Also remember; accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.
Stickman